引用元:ジブリの風立ちぬって言うほど主人公が葛藤してないからサイコパスに見える
1: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:45:11 ID:8GQ
美人な嫁が肺病だけど飛行機作りたいからサナトリウム送りにするって完全にサイコパス
子供にお菓子あげるシーンは主人公が他者への共感性に乏しいっていう伏線なんやろうな
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66: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)19:55:52 ID:mBC
>>1
サイコパスというか
完全に100%狂気に囚われた人として描かれてるやろ
美しいものを追求する為に全て犠牲にしてゆく男の話やん
サイコパスというか
完全に100%狂気に囚われた人として描かれてるやろ
美しいものを追求する為に全て犠牲にしてゆく男の話やん
2: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:48:20 ID:8GQ
そういう風に思ったんやけどどうなんや?
主人公が理想を追求するエゴイストなんやけど
それに対する葛藤とか内省とか自己嫌悪がまるで無いやん
主人公が理想を追求するエゴイストなんやけど
それに対する葛藤とか内省とか自己嫌悪がまるで無いやん
5: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:50:12 ID:n0q
>>2
どうなん?って聞いた後に自分で答えだしとるやん
どうなん?って聞いた後に自分で答えだしとるやん
6: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:50:36 ID:8GQ
>>5
他の人はどういう感想持ったんやろうなって
他の人はどういう感想持ったんやろうなって
3: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:48:47 ID:Q1M
飛行機作る人と作家の話をミックスしてるからな
4: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:49:35 ID:8GQ
>>3
原作小説はもっと心に来る話よ
主人公がサイコパスの真逆
原作小説はもっと心に来る話よ
主人公がサイコパスの真逆
8: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:51:49 ID:Q1M
>>4
堀辰雄はずっとそばにいるイメージ
堀越二郎はそもそも奥さんが元気、だっけ
堀辰雄はずっとそばにいるイメージ
堀越二郎はそもそも奥さんが元気、だっけ
7: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:51:02 ID:FGB
そら時間と技術と大衆受け考えて作るんやから原作再現なんてできんよ
9: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:52:00 ID:8GQ
>>7
そういう話じゃないんや
そもそも原作はモチーフになっただけの
そういう話じゃないんや
そもそも原作はモチーフになっただけの
10: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:52:17 ID:8GQ
話やと思ってるし
11: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:52:50 ID:Cnc
パヤオが、実際に風立ちぬの二郎は頭おかしいって言ってたで
でも、分かる人には分かるって話しやで
でも、分かる人には分かるって話しやで
15: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:53:33 ID:Q1M
>>11
わかってて作るのな
わかってて作るのな
20: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:57:54 ID:Cnc
>>15
堀越二郎はかなりパヤオをトレースしたキャラで、飛行機づくりとアニメ作りと同じ
飛行機技術者なのに「美しいものが作りたい」ってよく考えたらおかしい答えやん?そこは完全にパヤオと同じだから
堀越二郎はかなりパヤオをトレースしたキャラで、飛行機づくりとアニメ作りと同じ
飛行機技術者なのに「美しいものが作りたい」ってよく考えたらおかしい答えやん?そこは完全にパヤオと同じだから
12: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:52:50 ID:SKd
そら〜に〜あこがれて〜
17: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:54:45 ID:9DZ
堀辰雄はどっちも結核なったんやろ?
堀越はどっちも元気
堀越はどっちも元気
18: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:55:30 ID:8GQ
小説の風立ちぬは
病気は苦しいものだけど「死」が迫ると人間の人生は美しくなるっていう話やろ
確かに道徳的な話ではないけど主人公には情がある
ただ映画の主人公は非情やんけ
病気は苦しいものだけど「死」が迫ると人間の人生は美しくなるっていう話やろ
確かに道徳的な話ではないけど主人公には情がある
ただ映画の主人公は非情やんけ
19: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:56:25 ID:8GQ
どっちかと言うと川端康成の小説に近い
純粋に美しいものが好きで女の人格とか興味ないから平気で毀損できるみたいな
純粋に美しいものが好きで女の人格とか興味ないから平気で毀損できるみたいな
風立ちぬ 2012-09-13 |
21: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:58:36 ID:Q1M
>>19
伊豆の踊子?
伊豆の踊子?
23: 名無しさん@おーぷん 2017/12/30(土)18:58:46 ID:8GQ
>>21
雪国
雪国
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