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「パチンコは禅」世界文化賞ヴェンダース監督の日本人論「だから私は日本に帰る」

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1: 少考さん ★ 2022/11/13(日) 15:44:59.46 ID:z9NTYMEf9.net
「パチンコは禅」世界文化賞ヴェンダース監督の日本人論「だから私は日本に帰る」|FNN
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中本 尚志 2022年11月12日 土曜 午後1:20

アメリカに憧れたヴィム・ヴェンダース監督。しかし、ハリウッドのシステムに馴染めずアメリカに別れを告げ、恋した場所は日本。東京で一番好きな場所はパチンコ店だと言う。そこに禅的なつながりを感じるそうだ。

パチンコは禅、映画館であり教会でもある

ヴェンダース監督が敬愛する小津安二郎。敬愛するあまりオマージュとして作ったのが『東京画』である。小津映画の常連、笠智衆さんなどとの出会いを通じて、現代の東京の画(イメージ)に小津的なるものを投影しようと試みている。ヴェンダース監督は自身によるナレーションの中で「無、空虚が現代を支配する」と日本を評しているが、それはパチンコ店のことだと明かしてくれた。

ヴィム・ヴェンダース(以下、WW):
パチンコには中毒的に、はまっていました。実は、結構勝っていたんですよ。左右に座っているお客さんが「この外人、なんで勝っているんだ」とすごく驚いていました。

パチンコと私は禅のようにつながっているように思えました。パチンコ店は自分の抱えているストレスや社会での立場を忘れさせてくれる場所です。大音量の音楽に囲まれ普段の生活から隔離されています。そこに存在するのは自分自身と機械だけ。日常から解放されリラックスするという意味では、誰しもそういう場所が必要だと思います。

禅という言葉を使いましたが、日本に来ないと分からないことで、海外の人の目には不思議な光景ですよね。暴力的な音の洪水、点滅する光の刺激。本当にカオスです。そんな中でなぜリラックスした状態に達することができるのか。私にとっては、ある意味、神の賜物と感じたものです。

WW:
またパチンコ店は、映画館や教会に近いと思います。社会的な場所として、いつも混み合っています。人々は密に寄り添い、同じものを信じ、同じ作業をする共通の場所ですね。

今回日本に来て、気づいたのですが、パチンコ店は減っていますよね。コロナ禍でソーシャルディスタンスを守るため、お客さんが減ったせいかと思いますが。

実は何軒かパチンコ店に立ち寄ってみました。パチンコ台の機械はどれも目新しくて、取りあえず試しにやってみましたが、あまり入りませんでした。パチンコへの執着は消えたかもしれません。

戦後(太平洋戦争のこと)日本でパチンコが大流行した時代、小津は『お茶漬の味』(1952年公開 松竹作品)を世に送り出した。そして、主人公にパチンコ玉を打つことの幸福感を語らせている。それを何度も見たヴェンダース監督は小津の心に追随し、パチンコに病みつきになったのではないか(パチンコ店店主を演じるのが笠智衆さん)。

ベトナム戦争終結(1975年)後、挫折と苦悩に苛まれるアメリカが世界の盟主ではなくなった1980年代。ヴェンダース監督の興味の対象が日本にシフトした当時の心境を聞いてみた。

(略)

また監督の受賞を祝い「ヴィム・ヴェンダース 第33回高松宮殿下記念世界文化賞 受賞記念Blu-ray上映会」(主催:記念上映実行委員会)がこれから来年にかけて全国で開催予定である。

※省略していますので全文はソース元を参照して下さい。

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ヴィム・ヴェンダース

ヴィム・ヴェンダースWim Wenders, 1945年8月14日 – ) は、ドイツの映画監督。

経歴

1945年8月14日、デュッセルドルフで医者の息子として生まれ、冷戦下の西ドイツで育った。米国に憧れ、子供時代はアメリカンコミックスに夢中だった。ギムナジウム卒業後、大学では1963年から1964年まで医学を、1964年から1965年まで哲学を専攻したが、いずれも断念した。1966年10月に画家を志してパリへ引っ越した。しかし、高等映画学院 (IDHEC) の入試に失敗。その後、モンパルナスにあるJohnny Friedlaenderのスタジオで彫刻を学んだ。


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16: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 15:57:50.94 ID:Py6wQbcY0.net
>>1
ヴェンダースの東京画だろ

当時からパチンコシーンは違和感があってネタになってた

181: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 19:25:10.13 ID:cTApeN8C0.net
>>1
この人と全く同じこと考えてたわ

3: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 15:49:27.59 ID:nQxb49yq0.net
アカン…中毒者や

5: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 15:50:41.87 ID:n8inl3Bi0.net
>>3
実質勝ちみたいな考え方だな

6: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 15:51:08.67 ID:f9VtqtNK0.net

7: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 15:51:20.43 ID:yc1lWrnF0.net
言い得て妙というか

10: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 15:52:19.33 ID:XheJSH0Y0.net
ヴェンダースは親日家
イベントで快くサインしてもらった
記念撮影をお願いしたら、奥様?も一緒にカメラに収まってくれた
ドイツ人らしく背が高かった

14: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 15:54:59.96 ID:XheJSH0Y0.net
確かに昔の日本映画は楽しそうに主人公たちがパチンコするシーンがあるな
外国人にとってはなんだろうって感じなんかな

15: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 15:55:27.83 ID:SySB6sOX0.net
パチンコ=禅

この発想はなかったわww
なるほど俺は修行してたんだな

18: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 15:58:03.41 ID:GlRbdGjb0.net
パチンコ ベルリン・天使の詩とかできるかな

23: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:01:14.99 ID:XpqBK6Ux0.net
今日2時間弱で54000円勝った

71: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:25:23.23 ID:HknNqw8x0.net
>>23
悟りの境地に立たれたのですね

28: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:03:18.35 ID:BQLwcJT90.net
俺はまだまだ修業が足りないらしい

31: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:04:00.12 ID:3GQe2Ste0.net
精神、統一

33: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:04:30.39 ID:C5v2BUSt0.net
メタルゴッドのジューダスプリーストも
来日した時はパチンコを楽しみにしてる
パチンコ玉はメタルだ

39: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:06:42.72 ID:6HaptTtd0.net
海物語打ってるとマジで心が凪になる

108: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:54:01.69 ID:LpVvzlpJ0.net
>>39
回る海は特にそうだね

48: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:12:37.33 ID:lPDOlXDS0.net
パチンコは嫌いだけど言いたい事はわかる
あれをやってる時は無我の境地に到達する

62: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:19:11.14 ID:XheJSH0Y0.net
近年の作品は低予算すぎてさっぱりだが
パリテキサスは大傑作で、都会のアリス、まわり道、天使の詩、あたりも面白い

67: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:23:14.71 ID:uNOpYn1t0.net
パチンコは禅ていう映画

101: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:48:33.03 ID:9ZcvJOUg0.net
ジムオルークとかジョンゾーンと話が合いそう

105: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 16:50:54.52 ID:MPG5Bwl10.net
羽根モノやらせろ!

124: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 17:17:54.56 ID:jXWeNz+W0.net
パチンコ=禅 てすげえ発想だな
あんなドーパミンどばどば出るギャンブルと禅の共通点とは

125: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 17:21:04.11 ID:S25NQxDU0.net
>>124
心が動揺しないようにパチンコで鍛えているなら禅だろ

135: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 17:39:08.63 ID:eUFN73BT0.net
台と向き合ってる様で実は自分と向き合ってる

140: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 17:45:48.89 ID:RFuhPEcN0.net
パチンコ屋で絶対やっちゃいけないのが勝とうとする事
それすら邪念なんだから

141: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 17:49:30.03 ID:ZCzi0zzK0.net
>>140
それはまさに禅の道。

禅では悟りたいと願う心も煩悩と言うしな

160: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 18:25:55.58 ID:p4oJTMdU0.net
何となく釣りに似ているパチンコ

164: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 18:33:41.34 ID:l7DMIGcd0.net
なるほどねぇ…
凡人が無になるにはうってつけかも

177: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 19:16:57.62 ID:U+Bty4YU0.net
目から鱗論

186: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 19:38:35.59 ID:o6F9/1Vc0.net
ただの依存症w

187: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 19:38:44.01 ID:SNUk+Ach0.net
パチンコは弾

207: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 20:23:50.90 ID:/gjaN8WJ0.net
面壁9年ってやかましいわ

216: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 20:47:35.08 ID:EwjIObkI0.net
クソイライラして禅どころの話じゃないだろ

218: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2022/11/13(日) 21:34:15.63 ID:pHPMw4m+0.net
ちがうよ!全然ちがうよ!

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  13. All the blood rushes from his brain to his throbbing erection plus the heat of the shower, making the young lad, light-headed. “I knew ya couldn’t keep your hands off it.” His dad says. “Men can’t do it, we are drawn to our cocks, like a moth to a flame, and usually that burning sensation that a man feels is the cum boiling up in our balls. You know that feelin’ doncha son?”

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  25. Garrett can see what his father is doing, unconsciously his hands moves to his cock. He strokes the length of his tool with his left hand while he teases the blistering red crown with the fingertips of his right hand. The lightning of his cool fingertips sends sparks through every nerve in his body. His father kicks the shoes from his feet and slides his khaki pants off, while still holding, the resistant nut-sac of his virile son in his right hand. He is now as naked as his 17-year-old son.

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  27. That night, I did a whole spa routine to make sure my skin was soft and my ass was stretched and wet. I was wearing nothing but a jockstrap as I was told. Waiting by the door on fourth. My heartbeat was so fast as my mouth was dry. I heard the footstep approaching. I left the door unlocked as one of the instructions I was received from daddy. He stepped in with his size 10 Christian Loublitine loafer where my eyes were going up from there. When I made eye contact with daddy, daddy slapped me across the face and said, “Bad boy, Where the fuck are your sneakers as I told you to wear tonight.” I was trembling and said in a very low voice, “ sorry daddy I fooooorgot.” “Back in the day, back before we turned into a modern society, a man would grab another man’s balls and swear an oath on them in his hand and state his words to be true. To be a friend” His father says. “Do you know what I mean, son?”

  28. Daddy was furious as I could hear his deep breath. He sat down on the bench by the door. I was looking down afraid he was going to kick my ass. He lifted my head from my chin using the tip of his loafer where I can smell that smelly sheer socks he has been worn all day. Just when our eyes met, a big stinky manly wad landed on my face. Then I felt a big rough hand rubbing the spit all over my face. I heard the daddy say, “ next time remember what I told you exactly, I don’t want this to happen again, you hear me? I paused and said, “ yeeee…”. Before I finished the sentence, another spit and a big slap on me. “ when I told you something you must say yes. There is no room for you to argue or think, understood?” He said in a deep and firm tone. “ yes sir”. Without missing a beep I said it. “good boy, your night is just about to start.” Garrett can see what his father is doing, unconsciously his hands moves to his cock. He strokes the length of his tool with his left hand while he teases the blistering red crown with the fingertips of his right hand. The lightning of his cool fingertips sends sparks through every nerve in his body.

  29. Daddy gave me a look implying his shoes are needed to be removed. “Can I take off your loafers, daddy ?” I asked so quietly. He looked at me and nodded. I took off both his loafers and put them away neatly in front of me. Daddy then raised his right leg and stepped on my forehead, pushing me down into his loafers. It is a mixed smell with sweat, testosterone, and leather. I couldn’t help but take a big whiff every time I breathed. “Hands-on the floor” he commanded. He moved his feet from my head to my hands. “Kiss them and make the stink goes away using only your fag tongue.” “Yes sir.” He does not hear the slamming of the front door. Neither does he hear the footsteps on the wood floor in the hallway. The shower drowns away all this noise.

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  31. “Back in the day, back before we turned into a modern society, a man would grab another man’s balls and swear an oath on them in his hand and state his words to be true. To be a friend” His father says. “Do you know what I mean, son?” “Lookin’ good, son. Lookin’ good.” His dad says over the stream of the warm cleansing water as it caresses his mature man body.

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