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1: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/07/24(日) 11:38:58.92 .net
公開日: 2022年11月11日 (アメリカ合衆国)

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7: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/07/24(日) 13:16:20.95 .net
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291: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/10(木) 14:45:31.65 ID:WUsgkU4U.net
なんだかんだと言いながら初日に観にいくわ
暇やし

317: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 03:03:02.58 ID:seLjGX7X.net
ちゃんとシュリが成長する物語で良かった
キルモンガーが出てくる理由がよくわからんかったけど誰か

357: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 14:54:55.90 ID:w5902Y7k.net
>>317
キルモンガーが出てきた理由はかつての自身と同じく大切な人を奪った者に対する復讐心から暴力を行使する前提の平和で考えてしまっているシュリに対して自分と同じ様な過ちは犯すなと忠告する為に現れた

今回シュリのスーツがキルモンガーと似た金色なのはキルモンガーと同じ道を歩んでる事の暗示
最後には自身で気がついて同じ道を歩む事は無く終わったけど

369: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:28:35.29 ID:2ck7psfA.net
>>357
おいおい本当に映画観た?w キルモンガーは復讐心を後押したんだけどw あの時のシュリは復讐心に駆られていたからティチャラやラモンダと会えずキルモンガーと会うことになったんだが

443: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:54:42.10 ID:w5902Y7k.net
>>369
でもその解釈だとキルモンガーがティチャラの事を彼は高潔過ぎたと彼を評価した発言をしたのは何故かという疑問が残るんだよね
それにバーストの世界って前作で描かれ方を観るに生前の記憶があるみたいだからキルモンガーが単純にシュリを陥れようとしているというよりは挑発的な話方で忠告している様に見えたけど

444: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:58:35.05 ID:r2+/ejQh.net
>>443
いや皮肉だろ。結局成し遂げてないんだから。シュリも会話遮って侮辱するのはやめろと止めてたろ
さすがにキルモンガーが敢えて反対のことをいってシュリに気づかせるはキルモンガーをよく見せすぎだわ
メタ的にティチャラとはあそこで会えないんだからその会えないって事をまず考えないと

454: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 17:05:40.78 ID:w5902Y7k.net
>>444
メタ的に合わせられない理由としてシュリがかつてのキルモンガーと同じ道に向かおうとしているからティチャラに会えなかったという話にしたのは理解してる

ただ貴方の解釈だと前作ラストでティチャラとキルモンガーが和解した話は無かった事になってると思うのだけれど

459: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 17:10:32.19 ID:SnVVVJ8C.net
>>454
別に前作でキルモンガーは自分の過ちを認めたりはしてないだろ。各々の正義の方向性が違いティチャラの正義が上回っただけ。キルモンガーの正義だってやり方が違えば時として正義として支持されていた。
勝手にキルモンガーが過ちを認めたなんてミスリードしちゃダメだろ。

323: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 06:58:14.70 .net
3D効果全然なかったな

324: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 08:26:38.44 ID:+e11TYv3.net
ムーンナイトのペーパーウェイト欲しすぐる
残っててくれ

332: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 12:35:27.54 ID:C0AQYMUu.net
本編よりエンドクレジット後の映像の方が楽しみだったのにまさかエンドクレジットが無いなんて

333: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 12:49:00.75 ID:E8r3rBzm.net
個人的にはFBIとのチェイスがピークだったかな、アイアンハートのガチャガチャ感含め

338: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 13:34:09.26 ID:9K8XqPfs.net
ももクロの人を大事な役の声優に何故起用したんだろう。ブラパン1からこの人だっけ?

340: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 13:42:27.52 ID:0zbQVtxt.net
>>338
そうだよ。こうなることは想定できなかっただろう

343: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 13:53:15.50 ID:lOseSTyu.net
>>338
こういう(チャドウィックがお亡くなりになって劇中でも代替わりせざるをえなくなる)事態を全く想定せず、単に話題作りのため有名芸能人を端役の声優に据えたってだけでしょ
せめてスピンオフ作品でも自分が声を担当するくらいの覚悟を見せてくれればね…この分だとキャプテンアメリカ(サム)の声も溝端くんなんだろうなぁ

775: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/12(土) 05:49:12.71 ID:SqrkerCl.net
>>338
まさにタナボタ、ってやつ

342: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 13:46:40.17 ID:EHO56mAL.net
映画館で観てきたがエンドクレジット1個だけなんだな
シャチやクジラ出てくるシーンを映画館の大画面で観れたのは良かった
後は最初のロゴがスタン・リーの時みたく全部チャドウィック
最後の喪服を燃やすシーンの回想シーンが特によかった

347: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 14:02:33.78 ID:kKfGiVkP.net
サムはドラマではすでに溝端から変わってるからこのままキャプテン・アメリカ4でも変わったままになって欲しいというかなってくれ

349: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 14:11:33.50 .net
ブラパン1の時はそこまで百田の存在気にならなかったんだけどな
それよりエムバクの木村昴の方が下手すぎる

352: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 14:39:29.22 .net
お別れ映画というよりシュリの成長物語

356: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 14:54:35.88 ID:2VCwm2Pq.net
割りと良かった
字幕で見たからなんだろうな

358: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 14:58:47.33 ID:hxFUGn5N.net
正直フェーズ4でノーウェイホームの次くらいに良かったけど割と冷めた意見が多いな…

359: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:02:44.80 ID:LqFTgVNn.net
そろそろ「滅茶苦茶おもしれー!傑作!!」みたいなのがないとMCUという船ごと沈みそう

361: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:12:18.52 ID:zfgvrE6M.net
めちゃめちゃ良かったわ
百田夏菜子かなり良くなったな

367: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:23:26.18 ID:ZCirFrGD.net
面白かったけどなあ。エムバクがぶちのめされた時死ぬかと思って焦ったわw

リリ/アイアンハートも捻りはそんなに無いキャラではあったが、顔見せとしてはいい塩梅だったんじゃない?ネイモアも今後どう絡んでくるやら。

吹き替えに文句言ってる奴ら、MCUが始まってからこっち微妙声優起用なんて何回も繰り返されてんだから、良い加減字幕で観ることを覚えなよ…

368: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:25:44.98 ID:U+r3de+X.net
あんなの一口飲んで超人になるんだからチョロいよなあ

373: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:31:33.24 ID:VNQwh5+M.net
>>368
リリが飲みたそうにしてたの面白かった

378: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:36:28.85 ID:m0ZVKGkG.net
>>373
その後の冷めた2人の対応好き
家族の継承に他人が首突っ込むのは御法度ネタ

397: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:44:59.25 ID:JWPd2eUi.net
今作ではエムバペが出て次のアントマンではカーンが出て…ガーディアンズでは誰が出るの?ネイマール?

399: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:46:41.98 ID:q2JrDouO.net
ウカビってスルーされてたけどなんで消えたの?
俳優事情ではノープの撮影と被って出れなかったってのは知ってるけど作品内でもスルーはひどくね?

400: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:48:12.18 ID:0zbQVtxt.net
>>399
撮影に参加できないなら触れられないのは仕方ないでしょ。わざわざ話題に出るのも変だし

441: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:53:35.57 ID:is+4vVS8.net
>>399
夫に槍を向けたって言及されてなかったっけ、夫だったっけとは思ったけど
評議会なのにウカビ一党丸々いないのも違和感あったけど

402: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:50:20.93 ID:Dr55CMO1.net
ウカビは死んだって長老達集めてネイモアどうする会議してた時唇の長老が説明してたろ

403: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:52:00.71 ID:0zbQVtxt.net
>>402
いや死んでないって話じゃなかったか?ラモンダが私の家族は死んだけどお前の家族は死んでないだろってオコエに言ってる

405: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:53:02.25 ID:U8MlOkWb.net
>>403
いやオコエに恋人殺しくらい忠誠心示したって説明あったろ

409: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:57:10.08 ID:0zbQVtxt.net
>>405
それは違うよ。ブラックパンサー1の時にウカビはキルモンガーの側についたけど自分はティチャラの側に立ってウカビと戦ったよと言ってるだけだよ

海外のサイトでも生きてるとなってるし

https://collider.com/what-happened-to-daniel-kaluuyas-wkabi-in-black-panther-wakanda-forever/

Ramonda Confirms That W’Kabi Is Alive

411: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:58:17.56 ID:dD00rCxP.net
>>409
まじか…降伏したすまん

404: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:52:17.60 ID:NcemeAiX.net
かめかめ波みたいにワカンダフォーエバー掛け声で倒す必要あったか?

412: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:58:47.34 ID:ko8crIOg.net
>>404
タロカンの挨拶がかめはめ波だから意趣返しやろ

413: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 15:59:19.19 ID:k6/Gnsz3.net
俺はオコエが職を解かれた時大泣きしたわ
オコエが何したんだつう話だよ

418: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:04:09.13 ID:fRRD0zCl.net
>>413
普通に王女誘拐されたら責任問題だろ。むしろオコエならきちんと責任取るっていうタイプかと思ったからしがみ付こうとした姿に違和感覚えたわ

421: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:06:48.28 ID:0zbQVtxt.net
>>413
オコエがシュリを外に出そうと言い出してその結果さらわれたんだろ
そりゃ責任問題になるのは当たり前

416: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:01:31.27 ID:jY1Xx8SG.net
母ちゃん役64歳って黒人はほんと老けないな
肩周りの筋肉が美しかった

426: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:15:37.65 ID:+Eg4f9co.net
これ3Dでやる意味なかっただろ

428: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:20:32.57 ID:INo3TmnM.net
アイアンハートがメダロット感強すぎた
プロトのほうが良かったな

430: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:31:11.41 ID:9p4wn8Yy.net
吹き替えで見た人に聞きたいんだけどシュリがブラパン姿で長老達にお披露目するところのエムバクがネイモアを語るシーンあったじゃん?
そこでエムバクがネイモアをククルカンは神だと説明してる時のあのククルカンの言い方は木村も本家みたいな癖のある言い方してた?

433: 名無シネマ@上映中 2022/11/11(金) 16:33:41.26 ID:3brIONdY.net
IMAXで見てきた
チャドさんの死を作品としてちゃんと受け入れてる感じはとてもよかった
でもそれだけかな…
あ、シビアな戦闘中にネイモアさんの足のちっちゃい羽がパタパタしてるのはちょっとかわゆかったw
水中のシーン多いから4DXだと水ばちゃばちゃ使う演出多くて楽しそう

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